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not only if russia invades ukraine, but also if russia disrupts the may 25th senator election. senator ayotte, you have introduced legislation to impose those sanctions not later, but right now. >> they need to be imposed now, chris. the bottom line is if we wait until the elections, it will be too late at that point. we already see the playbook of what happened in crimea happening in eastern ukraine, and it's time to impose tougher sectoral sanctions to provide support for the ukrainian military, and if -- at this point russia is not getting the message, they're violating the so-called geneva agreement, and you have russian agents in ukraine fomating unrest and causing all the violence and really creating a situation right now that warrants tougher sanctions by this administration. >> briefly, congressman schiff, have the obama sanctions up to this point been too weak? >> well, look, i think we're going to ultimately need stronger sanctions. the challenge is not getting the administration to go along with the stronger sanctions. the challenge has been getting our european alli
not only if russia invades ukraine, but also if russia disrupts the may 25th senator election. senator ayotte, you have introduced legislation to impose those sanctions not later, but right now. >> they need to be imposed now, chris. the bottom line is if we wait until the elections, it will be too late at that point. we already see the playbook of what happened in crimea happening in eastern ukraine, and it's time to impose tougher sectoral sanctions to provide support for the ukrainian...
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that is true now for russia. all of the top ceos of the business community and industry have said if that is the case if you decide on that than we will abide by your decisions and the community knows this. although they have envisaged a different kind of relationship. if two years ago you had asked me whether we would discuss such issues today, i would have said that is not very probable. one needs predictability. and one needs certain framework conditions for investments. so, many in the business community -- i cannot talk obviously reliably on their behalf -- but many of them are aware that reliability and the basic acceptance of the european postwar order, namely territorial integrity, is a very important thing and the business community in doing business cannot completely neglect that. they will not be enthusiastically owed -- excepting that but they are open. there are possibilities there. let us work together with russia for the elections taking place in ukraine on may 25 so ukrainians are in a position to
that is true now for russia. all of the top ceos of the business community and industry have said if that is the case if you decide on that than we will abide by your decisions and the community knows this. although they have envisaged a different kind of relationship. if two years ago you had asked me whether we would discuss such issues today, i would have said that is not very probable. one needs predictability. and one needs certain framework conditions for investments. so, many in the...
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lawmakers debated whether or not sanctions against russia are are working on cnn's state of the union. elliot engel says they are because vladimir putin has not further invaded ukraine while ron johnson says they are not working and the u.s. needs to provide lethal aid to ukraine. >>> mike christian is standing firm on his views of the death penalty saying i alelize this may sound harsh but as a father and former law man i really don't care if it's by le tall injection, electric chair, firing squad, hanging, the guillotine or being fed to the lions. >>> things are heating up down south and summer's coming. in alabama, there are a record 11 african-americans on the june primary ballot running for various offices for state legislature to board of education. what makes it historic is all 11 are running as republicans. gop says it is evidence that their recruiting efforts with minority candidates are working. pamela blackmore-jenkins is running for a seat in the state legislature. she joins me from birmingham. thank you so much for being here. tell us what drew you to the gop given the nu
lawmakers debated whether or not sanctions against russia are are working on cnn's state of the union. elliot engel says they are because vladimir putin has not further invaded ukraine while ron johnson says they are not working and the u.s. needs to provide lethal aid to ukraine. >>> mike christian is standing firm on his views of the death penalty saying i alelize this may sound harsh but as a father and former law man i really don't care if it's by le tall injection, electric chair,...
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russia is a more nasty foreign-policy challenge. it just seems to get tenser. >> we had russia calling for an emergency meeting. i think this will be little more than a mudslinging match. separatists who are pro-russian, shooting down two helicopters and killing ukrainian troops. we see the situation escalating. despite the escalation of sanctions, the situation on the ground seems to get worse. we do not see putin changing. >> let's talk about sanctions. why not tougher sections? why not go after the big banks? ratchet them up right now? >> the u.s. administration says if we throw all sanctions out immediately, we keep nothing in our pocket. we need to drip them out little by little. we need to warn putin and get him to pull back from the brink. for the europeans, there is division within 28 economies. some like britain want to go whole hog. others like germany and italy and others are not so sure. it will boomerang back on their economies. >> germany is the key. >> germany is one key. we have chancellor merkel meeting with barack
russia is a more nasty foreign-policy challenge. it just seems to get tenser. >> we had russia calling for an emergency meeting. i think this will be little more than a mudslinging match. separatists who are pro-russian, shooting down two helicopters and killing ukrainian troops. we see the situation escalating. despite the escalation of sanctions, the situation on the ground seems to get worse. we do not see putin changing. >> let's talk about sanctions. why not tougher sections?...
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does that promote russia moving their troops in? i would hope russia would think twice before doing that. >> let me ask you, a number of your republican colleagues have put together the russian aggression prevention act of 2014 to strengthen nato, new rounds of sanctions, do things like force the president to move forward with missile defense in europe which was tabled essentially. could you support something like that? what do you think is the right move? >> absolutely. we all need to find out how -- sanctions are by far the best way for us to go. by far. because nobody wins in these land wars, if you will. and we've proven it's not something we have an appetite for. with that being said we know that sanctions do work. they worked in iran, we doubled down in iran and made them tighter. i think that will happen. can we force russia to come to their senses because economically they can't stand what we can do to them? can we go after their energy market, which is at the heart of who they are. it's the pulse of what they have going on
does that promote russia moving their troops in? i would hope russia would think twice before doing that. >> let me ask you, a number of your republican colleagues have put together the russian aggression prevention act of 2014 to strengthen nato, new rounds of sanctions, do things like force the president to move forward with missile defense in europe which was tabled essentially. could you support something like that? what do you think is the right move? >> absolutely. we all need...
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russia played a role in that. it demonstrates russia has influence and can play a constructive role when it wishes to do so. and we hope that's very much the approach that they will take in the days ahead. but this is an extremely delicate situation, certainly the extraordinary violence in odessa on friday has made the situation more fraught. >> finally, mr. ambassador, this looks like a civil war, certainly sounds like a civil war. is there any reason to believe that's not what we're watching unfold? >> no. i don't see that yet, candy. what i see is a society which is facing extraordinary threats of division, but where the dominant opinion in every public opinion survey from every ukrainian i talked to is how can we get our country to pull together again? clearly, there are forces that are trying to deepen division and sadly, some of the forces seem to be coming from outside the country, from russia, but the dominant mood in the country is how do we end this violence and how do we pull the country together again?
russia played a role in that. it demonstrates russia has influence and can play a constructive role when it wishes to do so. and we hope that's very much the approach that they will take in the days ahead. but this is an extremely delicate situation, certainly the extraordinary violence in odessa on friday has made the situation more fraught. >> finally, mr. ambassador, this looks like a civil war, certainly sounds like a civil war. is there any reason to believe that's not what we're...
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you've got the former ambassador to russia, the united states former ambassador michael mcfaul saying this is real. this is war. they're even starting to rethink whether putin really does want to go into ukraine with a big way with troops. although their calculation had been that he simply wanted to destabilize the area. the problem for the administration is military options are off the table. not clear that those would work. and it's tough to get a consensus across europe about the kind of sanctions that might deter vladimir putin. so they are a bit hamstrung right now. but the united states and the president especially is determined not to put the united states in the middle of a war over ukraine. >> it's such a thorny problem and as you say, humor is not going to make it go away. george, by the way, has a big show this morning with much more on the situation on ukraine. that's later this morning on "this week" right here on abc. george, thanks again. and, bianna, over to you. >>> we're going to turn to the brazen teen accused of hacking into his high school's computers to change no
you've got the former ambassador to russia, the united states former ambassador michael mcfaul saying this is real. this is war. they're even starting to rethink whether putin really does want to go into ukraine with a big way with troops. although their calculation had been that he simply wanted to destabilize the area. the problem for the administration is military options are off the table. not clear that those would work. and it's tough to get a consensus across europe about the kind of...
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there does have to be an off ramp for russia to deescalate this. i don't think we choose to get in a war with the russians. we have to bolster nato. that is something they talked about, too. we have to find a way to achieve a pluralist noncorrupt government in ukraine and we have to support trade, i think so. >> so what is the off ramp? >> well, putin personally, certainly the information everybody seems to have is that there is no advantage to russia in having an all out war in ukraine. our leverage is our economy against him. we're strong. he's a gas station as john mccain said with a lot of corrupt people surrounding him. if we are going to avoid the sanctions we can avoid a worse outcome. we have to bolster nato. we have some troops on the ground. europe has to be in that game as much as we can. they can't outsource nato to the united states. >> george? >> we're at war now. the fact is two helicopters get shot down. putin says that ukraine's use of its own army to enforce order in its own territory is a criminal act? he clearly has decided that
there does have to be an off ramp for russia to deescalate this. i don't think we choose to get in a war with the russians. we have to bolster nato. that is something they talked about, too. we have to find a way to achieve a pluralist noncorrupt government in ukraine and we have to support trade, i think so. >> so what is the off ramp? >> well, putin personally, certainly the information everybody seems to have is that there is no advantage to russia in having an all out war in...
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i'm not looking to replace america with russia. with all due respect, putin will have to prove himself over time to be sustainable partners. >> that goes both ways. >> sure. exactly. we will continue to work on this. if you decide you don't want to help me fight terrorism, what do you think i'm going to do? >> we have to protect our own country and therefore we have to have other people we can look for if america does not want to help us. >> yes, but i do not think it is as stark as that. we would do what you will do in defending our country. nothing less, nothing more. >> you are getting aid from saudi arabia. financial aid. you said we like the changes we have seen and we will support them. it is fair to say they were very unhappy about what happened to mubarak and the way it was handled by the united states. everybody knows. >> both of these countries are close friends of america as well. they still are friends with america. they have strong relations. so what they are doing, even when they differ on some points, does not mean o
i'm not looking to replace america with russia. with all due respect, putin will have to prove himself over time to be sustainable partners. >> that goes both ways. >> sure. exactly. we will continue to work on this. if you decide you don't want to help me fight terrorism, what do you think i'm going to do? >> we have to protect our own country and therefore we have to have other people we can look for if america does not want to help us. >> yes, but i do not think it is...
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>> in russia, wall brings down you. did he say that? >> i don't know if a transcript exists of his speech, because it was clearly effective. >> there you see the president in the center of your screen. the president is going to speak tonight and we're going to carry that. plus, we'll look at some of the comics that performed at past dinners, when we come right back. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. this is humira helping me lay the groundwork. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira is proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, o
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these are deep-seeded problems that russia has. i'm not suggesting that the sanctions don't have some impact. after all, these sanctions are only on individuals and one single bank. if we impose sanctions on sector s, defense sector, energy sector and most significantly, financial and banking sector, that would truly take its toll. i think it's something we should have done at the outset to curb his behavior. what's in front of him, i think is the intimidation campaign continuing and if the ukrainians were somehow successful at being able to oust his special operation forces from these buildings they're holding, then he would consider crossing the border. i don't think he'll cross the border until those elections are held and he's able to manipulate that new government. those elections will take place on may 25. >> right. quickly, can you answer this question concisely, which is what is putin's achille's heel? >> it is his economy. >> okay. >> and also the support he would eventually have from his own people as a result of his auth
these are deep-seeded problems that russia has. i'm not suggesting that the sanctions don't have some impact. after all, these sanctions are only on individuals and one single bank. if we impose sanctions on sector s, defense sector, energy sector and most significantly, financial and banking sector, that would truly take its toll. i think it's something we should have done at the outset to curb his behavior. what's in front of him, i think is the intimidation campaign continuing and if the...
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you can't lay it on russia. without disregarding the internal tensions within a profoundly divided and country with years, decades of administration. >> a quick response before we go, andreas. >> well, ukraine is a plural society. it is not a monoethnic society. it is not deeply divided country. it has had, of course, always the separatists, but we have never seen anything like this particular kind of aggression and i do think that this is mainly coming from outside. we had, over the years in ukraine, again and again demonstrations and we had in 1990 the revolution in kiev. in 2004 the orange revolution, knew the euro maydan. this is domestic. what is happening in eastern ukraine and is now happening also in southern ukraine is clearly coming from outside. >> thank you all. that brinks us to the end of this ed -- brings us to the end of this edition of "inside story." thanks for being with us. in washington, i'm ray suarez. >> observes are freed in the eastern ukraine as kiev is continuing the offensive against
you can't lay it on russia. without disregarding the internal tensions within a profoundly divided and country with years, decades of administration. >> a quick response before we go, andreas. >> well, ukraine is a plural society. it is not a monoethnic society. it is not deeply divided country. it has had, of course, always the separatists, but we have never seen anything like this particular kind of aggression and i do think that this is mainly coming from outside. we had, over...
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in western russia. they've been on periodical maneuvers in a relatively threatening posture. they could easily be diverted to take territory and go in as what the kremlin may call peacekeepers in eastern ukraine. at the moment, that hasn't happened, and indeed, dmitri peskov, the presidential spokesman, saying this, moscow does not yet know how to respond to the growing violence in ukraine, but i've been told personally that vladimir putin is viewing the situation with grave concern and he's watching developments by the hour. errol. >> that's matthew chance for us live from moscow. thank you. >>> now we want to bring you the latest information we have now on that desperate search for malaysia flight 370. the airline has told families staying at a beijing hotel it's time to go. malaysia air said they'd be better off waiting for updates "in the comfort of their own homes." cnn's david mckenzie's been speaking to some of the family members and filed this report. >> reporter: after nearly two months of agon
in western russia. they've been on periodical maneuvers in a relatively threatening posture. they could easily be diverted to take territory and go in as what the kremlin may call peacekeepers in eastern ukraine. at the moment, that hasn't happened, and indeed, dmitri peskov, the presidential spokesman, saying this, moscow does not yet know how to respond to the growing violence in ukraine, but i've been told personally that vladimir putin is viewing the situation with grave concern and he's...
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we have not torn up the nato russia or room declaration. russia is so integrated into your. when the russians talk of nato enlargement is something that is excluded from your. the russians are of the council of europe. and before the crisis there were going to join the economic corporation developed. we are keeping those mechanisms for what it was recalling the future european security open hoping that senator later it would come to their senses and realize they had procured a short term through of nationalist exuberant somehow. >> how the russian president has asserted the right of pressure to intervene. some of the baltic states. is there any doubt who at the fresh surtout invade or even try to destabilize and is an, one of the minimum restates that an article five mutual defense full for the defense for would be the reaction? >> the problem is a big part of the public opinion those knives into this in. >> they could be sure and we need to keep an unambiguous there is still concern. >> the central europe. the of the barnabases if you look at the complex set of strategy it
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listen, russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. all it -- all he's got is gas and oil. and that's really all that is sustaining them. wait, i take that back. it is a gas station run by a mafia that is masquerading as a -- >> seth: yeah, because originally i thought it was a little rough. >> yeah, yeah. [ applause ] >> seth: i'm glad you softened it. >> so, so if we show strength, if we show steadfastness -- ronald reagan, peace through strength. peace through strength. and rather than let him think that he can get away with things like he's doing now. now he's got his thugs in eastern ukraine and they beat up people and they do -- now the question is, can the new government survive? look, the government they just got rid of, the guy in charge, yanukovych, he had a home worth $100 million with his own zoo in it. his son was a dentist. a billionaire. that's not a bad practice, of dentistry. >> seth: right. >> so, so it was a corrupt government. the people rose up. one of them, by the way, is heavyweight the champion of the world, vitali klitschko. one of the really neat g
listen, russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. all it -- all he's got is gas and oil. and that's really all that is sustaining them. wait, i take that back. it is a gas station run by a mafia that is masquerading as a -- >> seth: yeah, because originally i thought it was a little rough. >> yeah, yeah. [ applause ] >> seth: i'm glad you softened it. >> so, so if we show strength, if we show steadfastness -- ronald reagan, peace through strength. peace through...
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russia is not iran. we almost lost -- the sanctions process with the europeans, we almost lost that last week. we could barely get the europeans to the digita table os issue. >> charlie: why? because they don't want to punish the russians. they want to support the ukrainians. but they have a lot at stake economically and can't coordinate. >> charlie: what do they have at stake? >> you look at banking and the transactions between the europeans and the russians, and gas and look at the europeans and the russians, you look at even real estate in london is important. then you look at germany. germany, you have a population, a german population, which especially after snowden, is mistrustful of what the u.s. wants in foreign policy, doesn't want to get dragged in, strongly opposed to sanctions. you have an industrial lobby and financial lobby in germany telling merkel in no uncertain terms, we want no sanctions whatsoever. then you've got caterpillar in the united states that just lost a $1 billion deal that
russia is not iran. we almost lost -- the sanctions process with the europeans, we almost lost that last week. we could barely get the europeans to the digita table os issue. >> charlie: why? because they don't want to punish the russians. they want to support the ukrainians. but they have a lot at stake economically and can't coordinate. >> charlie: what do they have at stake? >> you look at banking and the transactions between the europeans and the russians, and gas and look...
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we have the russia nato meetings and that was done specifically to recognize that russia would i'm sure think that somehow this was a threat to them, their security and unique gove -- need not go back in history to far to get all that. i was not at the center of every decision but i was in the senate at the time on the foreign relations committee at the time, traveled a lot on this issue and i know our government at the time and our allies at the time did reach out to the russians to try to reassure them that this was about common interests, not about our differences. i think we have had in the last 20 years especially since the implosion of the soviet union we have had ups and downs in the russia-u.s. relationship in the nato-russia relationship that we have had periods of cooperation as well. we do a lot of things with the russians and we have differences. obvious to what has happened in the ukraine as i made clear at least in my opinion and my speech, that was not nato aggression that brought this action songs. and so we will continue to do what civilized nations must do, protect the
we have the russia nato meetings and that was done specifically to recognize that russia would i'm sure think that somehow this was a threat to them, their security and unique gove -- need not go back in history to far to get all that. i was not at the center of every decision but i was in the senate at the time on the foreign relations committee at the time, traveled a lot on this issue and i know our government at the time and our allies at the time did reach out to the russians to try to...
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>> well, the -- depend on what russia does. it takes to to tango, obviously, but from any point of view, is a said before, we don't want to close doors. we kept the nato council operational and still want to cooperate with russia as soon as we can men circumstances allow and dealing with all the oglobal challenges hike afghanistan or counterterrorism where we're constanting with-dos you're talking about to departmentalizing -- >> the point i'm trike to make here in the start run we have no -- short run we have no choice but to face the challenge. so, yes in the short term, deterrence and reassurance, if you like, defense of europe, that has to be the authority. but we are mindful here at nato that the world is not going to stop because of the ukraine problems. we don't have, if you like, any less chaos in syria or problems in the middle east, terrorism spreading across north africa, these things are still with us, so, yes, we have to deal with this issue of reassurance to the baltic states and we still have to work with our par
>> well, the -- depend on what russia does. it takes to to tango, obviously, but from any point of view, is a said before, we don't want to close doors. we kept the nato council operational and still want to cooperate with russia as soon as we can men circumstances allow and dealing with all the oglobal challenges hike afghanistan or counterterrorism where we're constanting with-dos you're talking about to departmentalizing -- >> the point i'm trike to make here in the start run we...
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i don't blame russia. um i want satan because. i don't see pertinent is the best thing for russia right now. but why rush of the duma for example for all plotting what britain has done the us violation of its promise is to do a workshop at the yeltsin. when gorbachev acquiesced in the reunification of germany for example that nato would not know one each for their deeds were valid violating major league by president clinton and continued to be violated by george bush. i don't blame russia for its great for our instincts to stop it. so that's a big part of the negotiating posture both countries are taking to the ice age for example could wind up green announcing the agreement that i believe was announced in tbilisi where we said that we were looking for georgia to eventually eventually be a member of the site of the american is going to die for tbilisi and article five applied to tbilisi with my tomato a phony alliance immediately. i make those having a hard time as it is anyway. it doesn't have the resolute desk trying anymore sin
i don't blame russia. um i want satan because. i don't see pertinent is the best thing for russia right now. but why rush of the duma for example for all plotting what britain has done the us violation of its promise is to do a workshop at the yeltsin. when gorbachev acquiesced in the reunification of germany for example that nato would not know one each for their deeds were valid violating major league by president clinton and continued to be violated by george bush. i don't blame russia for...
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it has to include russia and america. it has to include the arab and non-arab parties. >> that means iran. >> some of the major players. >> the evolution of policy. >> what is the evolution of policy? we need to find a way to go back with the americans and russians to where they were at the beginning of the process and find a way for persians and iranians to deal with each other's concerns so we can work on this issue. if we just have a meeting, we had a meeting. let's talk strategically. what are their interests in the middle east? >> what are russia's interests? >> to work on that. >> assad has consolidated power? >> again -- >> he has made gains. with the help of hezbollah. >> that is the conventional wisdom of the day. i don't think anybody has a conclusive force or authority. >> do you fear the groups that have joined the rebels? >> i dread them. >> that they could gain control and make it a safe haven for terrorists? >> that is a part of it. the other part is they would divide the state and then it would spill over
it has to include russia and america. it has to include the arab and non-arab parties. >> that means iran. >> some of the major players. >> the evolution of policy. >> what is the evolution of policy? we need to find a way to go back with the americans and russians to where they were at the beginning of the process and find a way for persians and iranians to deal with each other's concerns so we can work on this issue. if we just have a meeting, we had a meeting. let's...
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that is true now for russia. all of the top ceos of the business community and industry have said if that is the case if you decide on that than we will abide by your decisions and the community knows this. although they have envisaged a different kind of relationship. if two years ago you had asked me whether we would discuss such issues today, i would have said that is not very probable. one needs predictability. and one needs certain framework conditions for investments. so, many in the business community -- i cannot talk obviously reliably on their behalf -- but many of them are aware that reliability and the basic acceptance of the european postwar order, namely territorial integrity, is a very important thing and the business community in doing business cannot completely neglect that. they will not be enthusiastically owed -- excepting that but they are open. there are possibilities there. let us work together with russia for the elections taking place in ukraine on may 25 so ukrainians are in a position to
that is true now for russia. all of the top ceos of the business community and industry have said if that is the case if you decide on that than we will abide by your decisions and the community knows this. although they have envisaged a different kind of relationship. if two years ago you had asked me whether we would discuss such issues today, i would have said that is not very probable. one needs predictability. and one needs certain framework conditions for investments. so, many in the...
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russia cold for the west to stop toin with the situation instead of telling russia where and how to keep its own troops on its own territory russia again reiterated that it believes the u.s. and e.u. have stood in the way of a peaceful solution to the crisis by stirring about on the ground that escalated each time the visit of a u.s. official took place at the security council the u.s. accused russia of building a case for intervention thinking of truth his peace while moscow chooses seizing more territories well russia says the outbreak of further violence in ukraine needs to stop and returning to the geneva agreements is key ukraine's representative at the u.n. said events unraveling in eastern and southeastern ukraine are aimed at tackling highly armed militants on the ground and that the only military in the east of the country are russian supporters meeting wrapped up with russia reminding the council that forceful change of power always leads to disability the sion and that russia had suggested a variety of formats for dialogue throughout the crisis and would never deny the impleme
russia cold for the west to stop toin with the situation instead of telling russia where and how to keep its own troops on its own territory russia again reiterated that it believes the u.s. and e.u. have stood in the way of a peaceful solution to the crisis by stirring about on the ground that escalated each time the visit of a u.s. official took place at the security council the u.s. accused russia of building a case for intervention thinking of truth his peace while moscow chooses seizing...
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despite the rhetoric, russia can't be because russia is causing the instability. the express concern is cynical and disingenuous and meant only to distract us from the realities playing out before our eyes. i want to focus on one main point. from the outset, the government of the ukraine -- this policy restraint continued after russia subverted crimea, orchestrated and undemocratic separatist vote, invaded crimea and announced to the world it had annexed crimea. while lying about intentions and its presence in crimea every step of the way. as far as the operatives have moved to the homeland. >> day after day, it has shown remarkable almost unimaginable restraint. it has done is this council has asked. it has refrained from military responses to aggression even as they announced it. and yet, in return for the reasonableness, russia has to stabilize, threaten, and terrorize. the same scenario that played itself out as been repeating itself in parts of eastern ukraine. the same sudden appearance of unfamiliar men and new armaments. and the same denials of russian inv
despite the rhetoric, russia can't be because russia is causing the instability. the express concern is cynical and disingenuous and meant only to distract us from the realities playing out before our eyes. i want to focus on one main point. from the outset, the government of the ukraine -- this policy restraint continued after russia subverted crimea, orchestrated and undemocratic separatist vote, invaded crimea and announced to the world it had annexed crimea. while lying about intentions and...
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one area, crimea has already voted to become part of russia. but along the black sea if those regions block away from ukraine like crimea did ukraine would be cut off from major ports and some appliance. it would be nearly land locked. and if russia controlled those regions it would have to access all the resources. now, russia says it's not the aggressor. john terret joins us. john. >> that is stance taken throughout this crisis by the russians. vitaly cherkin, said the geneva accord signed back in april is effectively dead now and he blamed ukraine, kyiv and its western backers for letting that happen. in response, the council heard from the measured response from kyiv. samantha power the u.s. ambassador to the security council talked about 26,000 square kilometers of land presently being fought over by ukraine and russia and said throughout this 63 day crisis the ukrainians have tried to end it peacefully. here's more about what samantha power had to say. >> as its country has been carved up, as foreign operatives have arrived, ukraine has c
one area, crimea has already voted to become part of russia. but along the black sea if those regions block away from ukraine like crimea did ukraine would be cut off from major ports and some appliance. it would be nearly land locked. and if russia controlled those regions it would have to access all the resources. now, russia says it's not the aggressor. john terret joins us. john. >> that is stance taken throughout this crisis by the russians. vitaly cherkin, said the geneva accord...
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doing this for russia, but embracing russia. it was about giving russia a voice.f a say, a place, ready to go forward with nato membership. it was all about repeating those -- were small countries had to [indiscernible] the geography determined your faith or history. for example, one of the reasons nato came about was because some in yourarlier ideas struck the people in going back to the loose league of nations where everybody is used possible for everybody else's security and therefore no one is secure. there was a natural rebellion politically. make is thatant to [indiscernible] that has to be remembered. >> you have been observing all of this and you have talked with all of these people. how much thought was given to potential blowback from russia? point, wasbservation there a sincere desire or at least intention that if russia was involved in a certain way, it could he come part of the community or not? thes it has been indicated, are is a consistent record on the part of nato and beginning with the first visit of the secre
doing this for russia, but embracing russia. it was about giving russia a voice.f a say, a place, ready to go forward with nato membership. it was all about repeating those -- were small countries had to [indiscernible] the geography determined your faith or history. for example, one of the reasons nato came about was because some in yourarlier ideas struck the people in going back to the loose league of nations where everybody is used possible for everybody else's security and therefore no one...
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nato should treat russia has an adversary. >> russia's recent action in korean has reminded nato of its founding purpose. it has presented a clarifying moment for the transatlantic alliance. >> both leaders warned moscow, sanctions will be toughened if it happened. >> if there's further attempts at -- >> he seemed hesitant to halt the oil and gnarl natural gas sales. >> the idea that you are going to turn off the tap on all russian oil and natural gas exports is unrealistic. >> arizona republican senator john mccain doubts they will sacrifice and other ties for the benefit of ukraine. "the washington post" quotes him saying he's embarrassed that germany's failure of leadership. he's already made clear that's how he feels about the obama administration refusal to provide defensive weapons. the u.n. security council held its 13th emergency session on the crisis. this one called by russia, which blames the violence on kiev and its western enablers. >>> up next, the new jobs numbers and what they tell us. fox 45 in baltimore with clean up following the collapse of a sidewalk and retaining w
nato should treat russia has an adversary. >> russia's recent action in korean has reminded nato of its founding purpose. it has presented a clarifying moment for the transatlantic alliance. >> both leaders warned moscow, sanctions will be toughened if it happened. >> if there's further attempts at -- >> he seemed hesitant to halt the oil and gnarl natural gas sales. >> the idea that you are going to turn off the tap on all russian oil and natural gas exports is...
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i don't see putin as the best thing for russia right now but i don't blame russia the duma for example for applauding what putin has done. the u.s. violation of its promises to gorbachev and to yeltsin when gorbachev acquiesced in the reunification of germany for example that nato would not go one inch further east were violated violated majorly by president clinton and continued to be violated by george w. bush i don't blame russia for its great power instincts to stop it so that's a big part of the negotiating posture both countries ought to take to the united states for example could wind up renouncing the agreement that i believe was announced in tbilisi where we said that we were looking for georgia to eventually eventually be a member of nato no american is going to die for tbilisi and article five applied to tbilisi would make nato a phony alliance immediately nato is having a hard time as it is anyway it doesn't have a result d'être anymore since the soviet threat went away and we're desperately trying to find one for it out of our out of area operations being the latest attem
i don't see putin as the best thing for russia right now but i don't blame russia the duma for example for applauding what putin has done. the u.s. violation of its promises to gorbachev and to yeltsin when gorbachev acquiesced in the reunification of germany for example that nato would not go one inch further east were violated violated majorly by president clinton and continued to be violated by george w. bush i don't blame russia for its great power instincts to stop it so that's a big part...
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you're talking about going to the russia of border where russia spent 20 times what ukraine does on russia's budget. it's not clear what the ukrainian army is. remember, a large part of the ukrainian army in the east are ethnic russians. it's not entirely clear that they would side with the government. the sanctions route is the one that has to be tried and the german chancellor seems pretty firm that the europeans would join in broader sanctions and they want to keep ratcheting them up. it's important to know how much of an effect they have had because they have created so much uncertainty about russia that no one is investing. the stock market is down 13%. russia tried to borrow money on the international markets last week. they had to withdraw the offering because they couldn't borrow any money. of course, huge amounts of capital has fled russia. let's keep in mind that the economic sanctions strategy could work if implemented and let's hope that that is a track that these two leaders are on. the sense i got from meeting with merkel, which i did this morning, is that do europeans and the
you're talking about going to the russia of border where russia spent 20 times what ukraine does on russia's budget. it's not clear what the ukrainian army is. remember, a large part of the ukrainian army in the east are ethnic russians. it's not entirely clear that they would side with the government. the sanctions route is the one that has to be tried and the german chancellor seems pretty firm that the europeans would join in broader sanctions and they want to keep ratcheting them up. it's...
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while russia and the u.s. are trading these veiled and not so veiled threats, violence is burst in ukraine. >> two helicopters shut down with ground to air missiles today. the president referred to those. you mentioned this fire at the plant in odessa. that's 31 dead people. more than that killed in the gunfire. it's looking more and more like an armed conflict and now you have the administration setting a new standard which is the continuation of this kind of disruption as we get closer to that election on may 25th, crucial elections and the outlook right now does not look good. every day, ukraine looks more and more like a country at war. here, residents cheered after two ukrainian helicopters are shot done, both pilots were killed. and here, pro-russian militants crash with ukrainian police. the new violence comes as ukrainian forces launch their most intensive efforts so far to push pro-russian militants from one eastern city from a slip from their control. but ethnic russians resisted, blocking ukrainian
while russia and the u.s. are trading these veiled and not so veiled threats, violence is burst in ukraine. >> two helicopters shut down with ground to air missiles today. the president referred to those. you mentioned this fire at the plant in odessa. that's 31 dead people. more than that killed in the gunfire. it's looking more and more like an armed conflict and now you have the administration setting a new standard which is the continuation of this kind of disruption as we get closer...
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obama said today there's a possibility of new sanctions against russia. it that the best leverage we have at this point? >> well, i think our policy has to be multipronged. they did talk about new sanctions. they said they could be sectoral sanctions about not much specificity and that's because still the u.s. and the eu are not on the same pain because the iu has a lot more to lose than the united states does from the broad sanctions. but of course, we have to go beyond nat and have to also bolster nato, and we have taken some initial steps. we have to bolster the ukrainian government. you see the imf approve $17 billion for ukraine recently. and we have to take a variety of other steps aimed at bolstering kiev and deterring russia. the problem is that what is happening on the ground is happening quickly and at the diplomatic process is happening quite slowly. >> michael, thank you. >> thank you, john. >> an iraq war veteran charged with kidnapping two women is bind hards. one is telling the story how she managed to escape. we'll hear her next. humans. e
obama said today there's a possibility of new sanctions against russia. it that the best leverage we have at this point? >> well, i think our policy has to be multipronged. they did talk about new sanctions. they said they could be sectoral sanctions about not much specificity and that's because still the u.s. and the eu are not on the same pain because the iu has a lot more to lose than the united states does from the broad sanctions. but of course, we have to go beyond nat and have to...
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argue that -- that the main issue is not so much german businesses in russia. there is some and they have assets and they would be impaired, but the main issue with this thing is gas supplies to europe. russia currently supplies about 30% of europe's natural gas. >> right. >> and if -- if the pipeline gets disrupted, which it could easily do if there's a war. that will have severe and very far-reaching consequences in europe and across the globe. >> bill, how interested would you be though in seeing just how much companies really try to get ahead of this store. we just heard courtney reagan give us a market flash on jpmorgan quantifying how much exposure it has to russia. we know oil companies like,on mobile have big partnerships in the oil business. how important is it for companies to actually get out there and say how much will this particular thing or situation impact our bottom lines? >> well, for companies that are actually there. they should do this, because what's going to happen is there's going to be a moment in time in the future where i believe that
argue that -- that the main issue is not so much german businesses in russia. there is some and they have assets and they would be impaired, but the main issue with this thing is gas supplies to europe. russia currently supplies about 30% of europe's natural gas. >> right. >> and if -- if the pipeline gets disrupted, which it could easily do if there's a war. that will have severe and very far-reaching consequences in europe and across the globe. >> bill, how interested would...
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russia. the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the better horse, and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically -- a better course, and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically. and i think we are united on that front. >> they set a may 25 trigger date for economic sanctions, but will be sanctions stop putin's ambitions? joining me, a director of russian studies at the kanin institute. >>l this stop? we have tried times with sanctions. it does not seem to be helping much. >> putin has certain geo- political objectives. these sanctions will hurts. they will hurts going forward. in terms of the short-term to strategic objectives, he is not going to be deterred -- >> when you talk about his objectives, what are we talking about? does he want all of ukraine? just to cooler areas? wants allt think he of ukraine. if he wanted to invade ukraine, he could've done earlier. his main objective is to under main -- undermine the legitimacy andhe current government delay the elections. >
russia. the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the better horse, and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically -- a better course, and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically. and i think we are united on that front. >> they set a may 25 trigger date for economic sanctions, but will be sanctions stop putin's ambitions? joining me, a director of russian studies at the kanin institute. >>l this stop? we have tried times with sanctions. it does not seem to be...
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and europeans blame on russia. so they're also fighting back at this russian narrative, which you heard at the u.n. today that russians are under threat, peaceful protesters, we want to protect them. you still have the two competing, you know, world views, which are diametrically opposed. >> right. jim schiutto, thank you so much. >>> let's move along, breaking news here on cnn. we are getting word of the first case of deadly virus from the middle east here in the united states. dr. sanjay gupta will be here to explain what this is. that's coming up here. >>> also, one of the strongest statements yet by an nba player on the donald sterling controversy. he wants every player in the league to stop playing until the clippers' owner sells the team. but will the players actually listen? will they follow through with that? rachel nichols knows a lot about this. knows a lot of the players, going to join me live to discuss that possibility next here on cnn. and it feels like your lifeate revolves around your symptoms, ask
and europeans blame on russia. so they're also fighting back at this russian narrative, which you heard at the u.n. today that russians are under threat, peaceful protesters, we want to protect them. you still have the two competing, you know, world views, which are diametrically opposed. >> right. jim schiutto, thank you so much. >>> let's move along, breaking news here on cnn. we are getting word of the first case of deadly virus from the middle east here in the united states....
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russia is a very important. part of the world in a very large and strong country and of course we can disagree on things we can disagree on many things with russia with united states with many other parts of the world but another cold war is something i believe that will be very bad thing that nobody is waiting for that will have beth results lonely politically but also economically with chaff will have more tensions all over the border between nato and he say europe or russia so i hope really and i'm not naive but i hope that we can prevent another cold war in europe all right so well we're going to take a short break now we'll be back with that plantation get your elders to talk about the upcoming caravan actions and their rights if you're a skepticism stay with us. live . live live. live. live live. live. stop rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want to live. right. and i think you're. on our reporters. now we're back with garrick wilders dutch politician leader of the party for freedom gre
russia is a very important. part of the world in a very large and strong country and of course we can disagree on things we can disagree on many things with russia with united states with many other parts of the world but another cold war is something i believe that will be very bad thing that nobody is waiting for that will have beth results lonely politically but also economically with chaff will have more tensions all over the border between nato and he say europe or russia so i hope really...
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and russia. go to the side? we shall move back here where they seem to have people with more questions. how much time do we have? back there. >> i am a russian journalist. hearing from my friends who work in germany that the business trinity is against sanctions. community is against sanctions. they do want to go to saint petersburg and take heart in the next meeting. in the next-- art meeting. what do you say to your own community? think -- i do not know if that is the case in any other parts of the world. people who want to do business and that is what the business community is about. -- exactlyong longing for sanctions. some people are also against sanctions against iran. that is true now for russia. theof the top ceos of business community and industry have said if that is the case if you decide on that than we will abide by your decisions and the community knows this. although they have envisaged a different kind of relationship. if two years ago you had asked me whether we would discuss such issues today i
and russia. go to the side? we shall move back here where they seem to have people with more questions. how much time do we have? back there. >> i am a russian journalist. hearing from my friends who work in germany that the business trinity is against sanctions. community is against sanctions. they do want to go to saint petersburg and take heart in the next meeting. in the next-- art meeting. what do you say to your own community? think -- i do not know if that is the case in any other...
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the two leaders warned russia that they are ready to impose more sanctions if russia continues on its current path. phil mattingly has more on today's meeting. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. chancellor merkel just drove out of the white house after more than four hours here meeting with white house officials. the obama administration got what they wanted publicly. a commitment that should sanctions and to expand, the germans would be with them. both parties acknowledged that the best case scenario would be for these sanctions to serve as a threat. listen to what obama had to say. >> the goal is not to punish russia. the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the better course. resolve these issues diplomatically. we are united on that front. obviously come unite on that front. the question of what sanctions would actually look like. his experts are still working on that structure. which haselationship grown cold in the wake of the nsa disclosures, at least a positive public statements that. >> we had heard earlier on in this crisis, angela merkel implied that president putin
the two leaders warned russia that they are ready to impose more sanctions if russia continues on its current path. phil mattingly has more on today's meeting. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. chancellor merkel just drove out of the white house after more than four hours here meeting with white house officials. the obama administration got what they wanted publicly. a commitment that should sanctions and to expand, the germans would be with them. both parties acknowledged that the best...